Let’s be sagacious to challenge these naive YPFDJ as everything they are doing is lack knowledge of how the criminal regime works. Moreover, what do they lose by attending these good for nothing seminars
this meeting looks like OAU conference in english ,i just wondering what language do the youth used to communicate with each others and their masters i do not think they all speak english or any language from eritrea too . at least in the OAU we see people put head phone to lessen the translator but hear no body bother to understand any they just come for guyla.
I DON’T THINK SO! MR NEGA I THINK YOUR BRIAN NEEDS DISINFECTANT… TO CLEAN UP PFDJ DIRTY PROPAGANDA.
THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT A TORTURE MEANS WHAT A HANGER IS, …DESTRUCTION OF A COUNTRY SINGLE MOTHERS RAISING KIDS BECAUSE THEIR FATHER AT NONE STOP SLAVERY IN SAWA, TEENS ATTENDING SCHOOL IN SAWA……
ONCE IN A WHILE THEY VISIT SAWA, TAKE SOME PICS……………
BELAY NEGA ,bad wish,do u need ur weyane to destroy them by bomb.how many times thet went to Eritrea,dont warry a bout them ,even for u dont kill the government,you r not the first sellout our country.
WHEN I SEE THOSE YOUNG ERITRAN AND SOME ADULTS, I SEE THEIR EXPRESSIONS AND I AM PUZZLED WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR MINDS. SOME APPEARES TO BE SCEPTICAL OF WHAT THEY ARE HEARING. SOME ARE BORED TO DEATH. LIKE THEY ARE SAYING, DIDN’T I HEAR THIS BEFORE? OTHERS APPERARE LIKE THEY ARE SYAING, YOU GOT BE KIDDING ME! THEY ALL LOOK PUZZLED BY WHAT THEY ARE HEARING. FROM THEIR EXPRESSIONS, THEY WILL BE OPEN TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS SAYING. IF YOU ARE BORRED TO DEATH BECAUSE OF EMPTY PROPAGANDA, SOON OR LATER, YOU WILL BE CURIOUS ABOUT OTHER IDEAS. THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GROWING MENTALLY AND PHYSICALY, THERE FORE, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO MAKE ANY ARGUMENT PERSONAL.
THAT IS WHAT I LEARN FROM THOSE YOUNG ERITREANS’ FACIAL EXPRESSIONS.
Genet
enet
Amnesty International has called on Egypt and Sudan to take serious steps in order to stop the kidnap and trafficking of Eritrean asylum-seekers, according to a new report.
Victims have been kidnapped from camps on the Sudan-Eritrea border by the local Rashaida tribe, sold off to Bedouin criminals in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula and severely abused there, according to Amnesty.
Violence inflicted on captives has included rape and sexual abuse, beatings, burning and other violent treatment. Criminal gangs demand ransom payments from the families of the kidnapped.
Refugees die from injuries or because their families are unable to pay the ransom, which can amount up to $40,000.
“The Egyptian authorities have a duty to protect any individual on their soil, and must urgently take steps to free all people held captive and subjected to appalling abuses in Sinai, and provide them with immediate medical attention and access to asylum procedures and support,” said Claire Beston, Amnesty International’s Eritrea researcher … 2
…
“It is particularly worrying that numerous victims have alleged that the members of the Sudanese National Security Service are involved in the kidnappings near the borders with Eritrea and Ethiopia. The Sudanese government must investigate all allegations of the involvement or complicity of Sudanese officers and where sufficient evidence is found, individuals must be arrested and prosecuted,” said Claire Beston.
‘Doused in petrol and set on fire’
An Eritrean survivor described what happened to one of the other captives who was “made an example of”.
“He was bleeding all over. After more beatings, they poured petrol on him and set him on fire. After he died, they left his body in the room with us until it became rotten and worms started crawling. They forced all of us in turns to hold him.”
The human rights organisation said it has continued to receive reports of kidnappings since early 2011.
The majority of freed victims are in Israel, while some are in Egypt and Ethiopia.
MOST ERITREAN IN DIASPORA KNOW THE SUFFERING AND DEATH OF OUR PEOPLE IN SINI. HOWEVER, THEY CHOSE TO TURN THE DEAF EAR. YOU KNOW THAT ANY SO CALLED HUMAN RIGHT GROUP DON’T USUALLY MOVE FAST IN THE 3RD WORLD. MOST OF THE TIME, MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO BE KILLED BEFORE ANY ACTION CAN be TAKE PLACE. IT IS A FACT OF LIFE. THIS ISSUE IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO OUR ISSUE.IT IS SAD BUT IT IS THE TRUTH.
WHEN ERITREAN IN DISPORA ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE CRIME AGAINST OUR PEOPLE, HOW DO WE EXPECT OTHER TO CARE. WHEN ERITREAN ARE STANDING UP WITH A DICTATOR, IN SPITE OF HIS CRIME AGAINST OUR PEOPLE. OUR PEOPLE DIDN’T FLEE THE COUNTRY THEY LOVE BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEKING ADVENTURE. FOR ANY HUMAN BEING, IT IS DIFFICULT TO ACCEPT THE FACT YOU HAVE TO WAST AWAY YOUR PRODUCTIVE YEARS WITHOUT A MEANINGFUL REASON. FIRST, OUR BROTHER AND SISTER WERE BUILDING VILAS FOR PFDJ LEADERS AND OPERATIVES FOR FREE IN THE NAME OF NATINAL SERVICE. FOR 20 YEARS YOUNG AND OLD ERITEAN HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO FREE LABOR WITHOUT ANY MEANINGFUL RATIONAL. TO ME PEOPLE IN DIASPORA HAS A BIGGER ROLE TO PLAY IN SOLVEING THE SINI ISSUE. MANY DIASPORA ERITREAN ARE ACTIVLY SUPPORTING THE DICTATOR AND PROLONGING THE SUFFERING OF OUR PEOPLE.
QUESTIONS TO ASK TO ANY ERITREAN IN DIASPORA: IS IT OK WITH YOU WHAT IS HAPPING TO ERITREAN IN SINI? IS IT OK WITH YOU FOR ERITREAN TO BE TIED TO NATINAL SERVICE INDEFINITELY? IS IT OK WITH YOU FOR ERITREAN CHILDERN TO BE RAISED FATHERLESS? IS IT OK WITH YOU FOR ERITREAN FAMILIES TO BE BROKEN UP? IS IT OK WITH YOU OUR PEOPLE TO LIVE WITH OUT RULE OF LAW? IS IS OK WITH YOU A GOV. TO HAND OUT A MACHINE GUN TO CIVILIAN WITH OUT THE CONSENT OF EDF? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE IMPLICATION OF GIVING MACHINE GUNS TO RONDOM CIVILIAN? IS IT OK WITH YOU?
Genet
“IS IT OK WITH YOU FOR ERITREAN TO BE TIED TO NATINAL SERVICE INDEFINITELY? ”
Geneta,
What is your alternative? How would you fill the gap left by the national service programme, in terms of security and economic development, if we were to abolish it ( as you seem to suggest ) ?
I AM NOT FOR THE ABOLISHMENT OF THE NATIONAL SERVICE AT ALL. I AM FOR IT. BECAUSE I STRONGLY BELIEVE, ALL ERITREAN 18 YEARS OLD AND OLDER INCLUDING THE DIASPORA ERITREAN SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN OUR NATION BUILDING AND DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY. MY CRITICAL OPINION AND CONCERN IS NOT WHY IT IS IN PLACE, BUT HOW IT HAS BEEN MANAGED. WE DIDN’T CREATE A NATIONAL SERVICE. NATIONAL SERVICE HAS BEEN USED BY NATIONS FOR CENTURY. FOR EX, THE ISRAEL NATION IS ONE GOOD EXAMPLE HOW THEY HAVE BEEN USING NATIONAL SERVICE EFFECTIVELY. NOW, WE GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
EMBASORYA, YOU DON’T BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT PFDJ’S WAY OF NATIONAL SERVICE IS THE ONLY WAY? DO YOU? SIMPLE COMMON SENSE TELL US THAT IF ONE WAY OF DOING THING IS NOT WORKING, CHANGE IT. HOW TO CHANGE INEFFECTIVE METHED IS TO EVALUATE AND REACH AN AGREEMENT THAT IT IS NOT WORRKING. WHY THE CURRENT METHED IS NOT WORKING: #1 UNPRODUCTIVE DUE TO LOW MORAL OF PARTICIPANTS.
#2 CRUEL TOTALITARIAN RULE; NO ROOM FOR COMPROMISING.#3 THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ERITREAN FAMILIES IN ERITREA.#4 SUBJECTING YOUNG PEOPLE TO OPEN ENDED
NATIONAL SERVICE IS NOT A NORMAL NATIONAL SERVICE BUT A PRISON. #4 FORCES YOUNG PEOPLE TO POSTPONE HIGHR EDUCATION INDEFINITELY; THIS HAS A GRAVE CONSEQUENCE FOR OUR FUTURE. I CAN GO ON, AND ON…
THE ALTERNATIVES: LIMITE THE DURATION OF A SERVICE TO TWO YEARS. ALLOW YOUNG PEOPLE TO PLAN FOR THEIR FUTURE AS THEY SEE IT FIT. ALLOW FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE CREATIVE. LEADERS TO ACKNOWLEDGE A SUCCESSFUL FUTURE LAYS ON THE HANDS OF MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY NURTURED YOUND PEOPLE. CREATE A PROGRAM FOR DIASPORA ERITREAN TO BE PART OF THE NATINAL SERVICE. DIASPORA PEOPLE YOUNG OR OLD SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED JUST TO VISIT WITHOUT ACTUAL CONTRIBUTION. ERITREAN SHOULD BE GIVEN A PLAN OF CARE FOR ANY GIVEN TASK. NO OPEN ENDED FOR ANY TASK.
LEADERS TO PEOPLE COMMUNICATION, COMMUNICATON……….. NO MORE DO THIS BECAUSE I SAY SO.
Genet
GenetApril 5, 2013
EMBASORYA
IF THERE IS NO RULE OF LAW, THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY. NOT A SINGL TASK WILL BE COMPLETED WITH OUT THE GUIDANCE OF CONSTITUTION. LET US NOT KID OURSELVE, NO RULE OF LAW NO PEACE NO SUCCUESE.
Genet
ahmed salehApril 5, 2013
I agree GHENET , We can learn from RUWANDA experience at the time of tribal conflict
which led to genocide of more than 500,000 deaths under silent observation from outside
world . Foreign intervention usually occur when situation get in critical level after
innocent people death reached in alarming numbers . Therefore we shouldn’t lean on some
outsiders help wasting time to let the sufferings prolong its period rather the people inside
the country and its outskirts must act bravery enough to take matters by their own .
At the same time DIA policy and conducts of the last 20 yrs put the country and its people
isolated its reputation to the lowest grade in front international communities .
this people not just bored. but a lot of texting was going on in there. which is monkey don’t know nothing about it they have to talk to somebody. information was out already monkey have no control over it. and try to tell the European kids what to do in eritrea. how stupid. monkey just ate it.
Thomas April 3, 2013
Let’s be sagacious to challenge these naive YPFDJ as everything they are doing is lack knowledge of how the criminal regime works. Moreover, what do they lose by attending these good for nothing seminars
sidiabdu@gmail.com April 3, 2013
So much ignorance almost makes you feel we need a brain transplant.
aman April 3, 2013
this meeting looks like OAU conference in english ,i just wondering what language do the youth used to communicate with each others and their masters i do not think they all speak english or any language from eritrea too . at least in the OAU we see people put head phone to lessen the translator but hear no body bother to understand any they just come for guyla.
belay nega April 4, 2013
AMAN
THE FACT THAT THEY ARE FROM NATIONALISTIC ERITREAN FAMILIES THEY ALL SPEAK TIGRIGNA
eritreawit jigna April 6, 2013
I DON’T THINK SO! MR NEGA I THINK YOUR BRIAN NEEDS DISINFECTANT… TO CLEAN UP PFDJ DIRTY PROPAGANDA.
THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND WHAT A TORTURE MEANS WHAT A HANGER IS, …DESTRUCTION OF A COUNTRY SINGLE MOTHERS RAISING KIDS BECAUSE THEIR FATHER AT NONE STOP SLAVERY IN SAWA, TEENS ATTENDING SCHOOL IN SAWA……
ONCE IN A WHILE THEY VISIT SAWA, TAKE SOME PICS……………
belay nega April 6, 2013
I NEVER BEING HEGDEF AND I WILL NEVER BE
Genet April 7, 2013
IF IT WALKS LIKE A DUCK AND QUACKS LIKE A DUCK, IT IS A DUCK!!!!
Genet
simrrrrrrret neber April 3, 2013
BELAY NEGA ,bad wish,do u need ur weyane to destroy them by bomb.how many times thet went to Eritrea,dont warry a bout them ,even for u dont kill the government,you r not the first sellout our country.
belay nega April 6, 2013
YOU COWERED DEFENSELESS FROM KIDS OF BENGAZI
Genet April 3, 2013
WHEN I SEE THOSE YOUNG ERITRAN AND SOME ADULTS, I SEE THEIR EXPRESSIONS AND I AM PUZZLED WHAT IS GOING ON IN THEIR MINDS. SOME APPEARES TO BE SCEPTICAL OF WHAT THEY ARE HEARING. SOME ARE BORED TO DEATH. LIKE THEY ARE SAYING, DIDN’T I HEAR THIS BEFORE? OTHERS APPERARE LIKE THEY ARE SYAING, YOU GOT BE KIDDING ME! THEY ALL LOOK PUZZLED BY WHAT THEY ARE HEARING. FROM THEIR EXPRESSIONS, THEY WILL BE OPEN TO SEE WHAT THE OTHER SIDE IS SAYING. IF YOU ARE BORRED TO DEATH BECAUSE OF EMPTY PROPAGANDA, SOON OR LATER, YOU WILL BE CURIOUS ABOUT OTHER IDEAS. THOSE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE GROWING MENTALLY AND PHYSICALY, THERE FORE, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO MAKE ANY ARGUMENT PERSONAL.
THAT IS WHAT I LEARN FROM THOSE YOUNG ERITREANS’ FACIAL EXPRESSIONS.
Genet
enet
Paradiso April 3, 2013
Look how the bastard and savage Arabs in Sudan and Egypt are treating poor Eritrean refugees.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/articles/453067/20130403/amnesty-denounces-brutal-violence-kidnapped-eritrean-refugees.htm
Amnesty International has called on Egypt and Sudan to take serious steps in order to stop the kidnap and trafficking of Eritrean asylum-seekers, according to a new report.
Victims have been kidnapped from camps on the Sudan-Eritrea border by the local Rashaida tribe, sold off to Bedouin criminals in Egypt’s Sinai Peninsula and severely abused there, according to Amnesty.
Violence inflicted on captives has included rape and sexual abuse, beatings, burning and other violent treatment. Criminal gangs demand ransom payments from the families of the kidnapped.
Refugees die from injuries or because their families are unable to pay the ransom, which can amount up to $40,000.
“The Egyptian authorities have a duty to protect any individual on their soil, and must urgently take steps to free all people held captive and subjected to appalling abuses in Sinai, and provide them with immediate medical attention and access to asylum procedures and support,” said Claire Beston, Amnesty International’s Eritrea researcher … 2
Paradiso April 3, 2013
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“It is particularly worrying that numerous victims have alleged that the members of the Sudanese National Security Service are involved in the kidnappings near the borders with Eritrea and Ethiopia. The Sudanese government must investigate all allegations of the involvement or complicity of Sudanese officers and where sufficient evidence is found, individuals must be arrested and prosecuted,” said Claire Beston.
‘Doused in petrol and set on fire’
An Eritrean survivor described what happened to one of the other captives who was “made an example of”.
“He was bleeding all over. After more beatings, they poured petrol on him and set him on fire. After he died, they left his body in the room with us until it became rotten and worms started crawling. They forced all of us in turns to hold him.”
The human rights organisation said it has continued to receive reports of kidnappings since early 2011.
The majority of freed victims are in Israel, while some are in Egypt and Ethiopia.
Genet April 4, 2013
PARADISO
MOST ERITREAN IN DIASPORA KNOW THE SUFFERING AND DEATH OF OUR PEOPLE IN SINI. HOWEVER, THEY CHOSE TO TURN THE DEAF EAR. YOU KNOW THAT ANY SO CALLED HUMAN RIGHT GROUP DON’T USUALLY MOVE FAST IN THE 3RD WORLD. MOST OF THE TIME, MANY PEOPLE HAVE TO BE KILLED BEFORE ANY ACTION CAN be TAKE PLACE. IT IS A FACT OF LIFE. THIS ISSUE IS NOT EXCLUSIVE TO OUR ISSUE.IT IS SAD BUT IT IS THE TRUTH.
WHEN ERITREAN IN DISPORA ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE ABOUT THE CRIME AGAINST OUR PEOPLE, HOW DO WE EXPECT OTHER TO CARE. WHEN ERITREAN ARE STANDING UP WITH A DICTATOR, IN SPITE OF HIS CRIME AGAINST OUR PEOPLE. OUR PEOPLE DIDN’T FLEE THE COUNTRY THEY LOVE BECAUSE THEY ARE SEEKING ADVENTURE. FOR ANY HUMAN BEING, IT IS DIFFICULT TO ACCEPT THE FACT YOU HAVE TO WAST AWAY YOUR PRODUCTIVE YEARS WITHOUT A MEANINGFUL REASON. FIRST, OUR BROTHER AND SISTER WERE BUILDING VILAS FOR PFDJ LEADERS AND OPERATIVES FOR FREE IN THE NAME OF NATINAL SERVICE. FOR 20 YEARS YOUNG AND OLD ERITEAN HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO FREE LABOR WITHOUT ANY MEANINGFUL RATIONAL. TO ME PEOPLE IN DIASPORA HAS A BIGGER ROLE TO PLAY IN SOLVEING THE SINI ISSUE. MANY DIASPORA ERITREAN ARE ACTIVLY SUPPORTING THE DICTATOR AND PROLONGING THE SUFFERING OF OUR PEOPLE.
QUESTIONS TO ASK TO ANY ERITREAN IN DIASPORA: IS IT OK WITH YOU WHAT IS HAPPING TO ERITREAN IN SINI? IS IT OK WITH YOU FOR ERITREAN TO BE TIED TO NATINAL SERVICE INDEFINITELY? IS IT OK WITH YOU FOR ERITREAN CHILDERN TO BE RAISED FATHERLESS? IS IT OK WITH YOU FOR ERITREAN FAMILIES TO BE BROKEN UP? IS IT OK WITH YOU OUR PEOPLE TO LIVE WITH OUT RULE OF LAW? IS IS OK WITH YOU A GOV. TO HAND OUT A MACHINE GUN TO CIVILIAN WITH OUT THE CONSENT OF EDF? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE IMPLICATION OF GIVING MACHINE GUNS TO RONDOM CIVILIAN? IS IT OK WITH YOU?
Genet
Embasorya The Mighty April 4, 2013
“IS IT OK WITH YOU FOR ERITREAN TO BE TIED TO NATINAL SERVICE INDEFINITELY? ”
Geneta,
What is your alternative? How would you fill the gap left by the national service programme, in terms of security and economic development, if we were to abolish it ( as you seem to suggest ) ?
Genet April 5, 2013
EMASORYA MY BROTHER
I AM NOT FOR THE ABOLISHMENT OF THE NATIONAL SERVICE AT ALL. I AM FOR IT. BECAUSE I STRONGLY BELIEVE, ALL ERITREAN 18 YEARS OLD AND OLDER INCLUDING THE DIASPORA ERITREAN SHOULD PARTICIPATE IN OUR NATION BUILDING AND DEFENDING OUR COUNTRY. MY CRITICAL OPINION AND CONCERN IS NOT WHY IT IS IN PLACE, BUT HOW IT HAS BEEN MANAGED. WE DIDN’T CREATE A NATIONAL SERVICE. NATIONAL SERVICE HAS BEEN USED BY NATIONS FOR CENTURY. FOR EX, THE ISRAEL NATION IS ONE GOOD EXAMPLE HOW THEY HAVE BEEN USING NATIONAL SERVICE EFFECTIVELY. NOW, WE GOT THAT OUT OF THE WAY.
EMBASORYA, YOU DON’T BELIEVE THAT THE CURRENT PFDJ’S WAY OF NATIONAL SERVICE IS THE ONLY WAY? DO YOU? SIMPLE COMMON SENSE TELL US THAT IF ONE WAY OF DOING THING IS NOT WORKING, CHANGE IT. HOW TO CHANGE INEFFECTIVE METHED IS TO EVALUATE AND REACH AN AGREEMENT THAT IT IS NOT WORRKING. WHY THE CURRENT METHED IS NOT WORKING: #1 UNPRODUCTIVE DUE TO LOW MORAL OF PARTICIPANTS.
#2 CRUEL TOTALITARIAN RULE; NO ROOM FOR COMPROMISING.#3 THE NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ERITREAN FAMILIES IN ERITREA.#4 SUBJECTING YOUNG PEOPLE TO OPEN ENDED
NATIONAL SERVICE IS NOT A NORMAL NATIONAL SERVICE BUT A PRISON. #4 FORCES YOUNG PEOPLE TO POSTPONE HIGHR EDUCATION INDEFINITELY; THIS HAS A GRAVE CONSEQUENCE FOR OUR FUTURE. I CAN GO ON, AND ON…
THE ALTERNATIVES: LIMITE THE DURATION OF A SERVICE TO TWO YEARS. ALLOW YOUNG PEOPLE TO PLAN FOR THEIR FUTURE AS THEY SEE IT FIT. ALLOW FOR YOUNG PEOPLE TO BE CREATIVE. LEADERS TO ACKNOWLEDGE A SUCCESSFUL FUTURE LAYS ON THE HANDS OF MENTALLY AND PHYSICALLY NURTURED YOUND PEOPLE. CREATE A PROGRAM FOR DIASPORA ERITREAN TO BE PART OF THE NATINAL SERVICE. DIASPORA PEOPLE YOUNG OR OLD SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED JUST TO VISIT WITHOUT ACTUAL CONTRIBUTION. ERITREAN SHOULD BE GIVEN A PLAN OF CARE FOR ANY GIVEN TASK. NO OPEN ENDED FOR ANY TASK.
LEADERS TO PEOPLE COMMUNICATION, COMMUNICATON……….. NO MORE DO THIS BECAUSE I SAY SO.
Genet
Genet April 5, 2013
EMBASORYA
IF THERE IS NO RULE OF LAW, THERE IS NO ACCOUNTABILITY. NOT A SINGL TASK WILL BE COMPLETED WITH OUT THE GUIDANCE OF CONSTITUTION. LET US NOT KID OURSELVE, NO RULE OF LAW NO PEACE NO SUCCUESE.
Genet
ahmed saleh April 5, 2013
I agree GHENET , We can learn from RUWANDA experience at the time of tribal conflict
which led to genocide of more than 500,000 deaths under silent observation from outside
world . Foreign intervention usually occur when situation get in critical level after
innocent people death reached in alarming numbers . Therefore we shouldn’t lean on some
outsiders help wasting time to let the sufferings prolong its period rather the people inside
the country and its outskirts must act bravery enough to take matters by their own .
At the same time DIA policy and conducts of the last 20 yrs put the country and its people
isolated its reputation to the lowest grade in front international communities .
milka April 3, 2013
malti argtot du wela enty ko germuna
Said April 4, 2013
this people not just bored. but a lot of texting was going on in there. which is monkey don’t know nothing about it they have to talk to somebody. information was out already monkey have no control over it. and try to tell the European kids what to do in eritrea. how stupid. monkey just ate it.
Said April 4, 2013
monkey, he was lucky didn’t get the micro jacket. it was very expensive. next time you going to wear it. better not come back to the west dumb idiot.
Ali-lol April 4, 2013
Where is the petition amanuel? Did you use it for the rest room? How on earth this monkey mad his way to he meeting? Nobody to tackle him?