Kalighe,
Of course they don’t! otherwise people will raise questions and probably will rise against them. After all eritreans are nothing to PFDJ, just toys they play with.
Ghenet, a lot of Eritreans are dying in Libyan desert. According to a witness who wanted to remain anonymous: “When a truck [full of migrants], stopped in the middle of desert, some of them wanted to take a nap for few minutes. While they were sleeping, the driver and his assistant, told others not to wake them, else they too would be left. And they were left there to to die, in the middle of nowhere. This is a horror story …
Kalighe,
I think we, in the diaspora and in the opposition camp, are to blame for every such deaths in the last few years. We have not focused on bringing about the necessary change. We bicker among ourselves calling each other PFDJ or weyane. The maximum we have done is demonstrate and said ‘enough’ to PFDJ. If you call a thief ‘thief’ he would not mind, would he? Our ‘enough’ should be directed towards the bickering of the opposition! What we should have done is to focus on demonstrations against opposition leaders calling for unity and focus because we have not done anything while our people are dropping like leaves everywhere.
I think it is high time that people like you and me focus on saving our people and call for unity. We should tell them (opposition) that they will be as responsible as PFDJ if they do not act now!
They should march or leave the way to those who can!!! Our struggle cannot be held hostage by burn-out and power greedy arrogant so called politicians.
I agree. That said, I don’t think it’s easy to bring them together. They are too divided.
If the causes were some sticky issues, it would be relatively easy to get a middle way. But as I see it, it’s mostly about personal rivalry and a bit of a few others, fueled by intolerant culture. It’s not about diversity being a problem, as some of us may think, every camp is divided in one way or the other. There problems that cannot be pinpointed at easily. Is it because of religion, no, followers of the two major religions are divided among themselves politically. Is it about regions, or highland/lowland type, not at all, the same problems are everywhere. So what it’s it ?
Well, I think one major problem is lack of a culture of open and franc debate. We don’t discuss things with open mind. There is always some thing that is not put on the table.
We don’t think compromise is necessary. There are always those who think, they are smarter than others. Then there is an intolerable level of carelessness. Even those of us who know what should be done, leave it to others, assuming that some one will do it.
The worst part is that we wait till it happens to us. Only then we think what others have been complaining from is true. Indifference is very common and very damaging.
In a nutshell, the problem is mainly in the main stream culture.
Wedi memhirOctober 2, 2013
I like this discussion between Fev and Kalghe, Fev has made some very good points, her observations are a true reflection of many Eritreans. There is not only one answer to our many problems plus many different factors some of which you guys described contribute to where we are today as ‘Eritreans’.
I would also like to add that we trusted these people and we gave them everything, they took everything including our dignity, we have nothing left in us. Members of PFDJ are someone’s brother sister, father, mother or related in one way or another.
In my opinion we need to get back what is personally ours (everyone of us can ask ourselves what has been taken from us then try to get it back).
Best wishes
FevOctober 2, 2013
Ghenet,
So you think people in Eritrea would “rise” against pfdj if they mentioned the 13 victimes were Eritreas? Is there another Eritrea that we don’t know where people are brave enough to question the brutal regime and stand up for their rights? Isaias pretty much told the Erittean people he will do exactly what he wants and nothing is gonna change no matter how tough their lives get..Not a Beep from the people who you are expecting to “rise up” because of the death of 13 Eritreans in Italy…we just learned the PFDJ regime executed at least 25 soldiers who participated in last january’s “up rising”, i bet we will never hear a “beep” from anyone in Eritrea let alone an uprisisng, be it their relatives or otherwise..and trust me, everyone in Asmera will know the 25 soldiers were murdered, the 13 Eris Died at sea, but they will carry one with their day to day activities as if mothing happened. RIP to the victimes.
I was in Asmera last summer (July-August), and i was really saddened by the situation there. I came to learn that Isaias has susccesfully crushed the spirit of Eritreans. I have had a chance to speak to quite a few young people, the furthest they come to “Rising-up” against the PFDJ regime is, to leave the country and never to come back. There is no any desire (atleast from the ones i met) to risk anything to change the regime or save Eritrea. The scariest possiblity is, any illiterate colonel could topple Isaias tommorow and hold power unopposed, thus elongating our people’s suffering yet again. Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but this is my true reflections from ehat i have seen there. I don’t have a solution by as a suggestion, the people’s attitude (both inside the country and diaspora) before we change the regime. How its done, i honstly don’t know.
ghenetOctober 2, 2013
Fev,
It is sad that you have already given up on people in eritrea. First of all no sane person will talk about what they want to do to the GVT as PFDJ always scares them of spies. Secondly are we not talking about our people? Our mums and dads, brothers and sisters? They have no hope because we (the ones who have it and can do something) have denied them and didn’t give them anything to be hopeful of.
It is up to us to sow the seeds of hope in everyone back home. Let us write and rise on unity. Let us be open to anyone who wants to contribute. Let us spend one hour of every day doing that. I know it is difficult to eradicate fear that has systematically been installed for 22 year but I still refuse to give up on my people!
dallyOctober 2, 2013
ohhhhh my god. they told them african migrants, but they know whom they are. they are all eritreans migrated from eritrea due to brutal dictatorial regime.
God bless their souls!.TV-Eri….african immigrants….what a joke! These hgdefites and papagalo supporters are playing with the eritrean people.we will never forget what is happening to the eritrean youth inside and outside the country.what the hgefites and supporters who always want us to believe is it is america (cia), woyane, jews or some one else which is total fabrication. ENTEZEYTDEF’ANI MEN METS’ DEFENI! THERE WILL BE A PAY BACK TIME FOR HGDEF AND PAPAGALOS!!!!
This news from Eri-TV is finally being spoken through Eri-TV….. how amazing…..where was ERi TV when people who met the same fate in Libya, Egypt, and the desert where their body was sold….. a bit late ….. Strangely enough they (Eri-TV) is now saying “African immigrants” – not sure how many of them could be from Eritrea or Ethiopia but this is sickening…. what a government…. how low and how disgusting could Eri. Gov. could get….
” The scariest possiblity is, any illiterate colonel could topple Isaias tommorow and hold power unopposed, thus elongating our people’s suffering yet again.”
Dear Feven
As long as Iseyas is alive, a stupid colonel cannot mobilize the army without taking permition from his superiors. At all levels of the Army there are members of dift spy networks
What a shame to the Eritrean regime to call its own dead citizens as just “Africans” and ignore the horrible death of Eritreans in the sea.
If this is how Eritrea treats its citizens in death, then who will be surprised the way Arabs kidnap Eritrean children, enslave and harvest Eritrean organs without qualms in Egypt’s Sinai, Kesela or Libya?
Kalighe October 1, 2013
The news from Higdef TV is about African migrants … they don’t want mention that the victims are Eritreans !!
ghenet October 2, 2013
Kalighe,
Of course they don’t! otherwise people will raise questions and probably will rise against them. After all eritreans are nothing to PFDJ, just toys they play with.
Kalighe October 2, 2013
Ghenet, a lot of Eritreans are dying in Libyan desert. According to a witness who wanted to remain anonymous: “When a truck [full of migrants], stopped in the middle of desert, some of them wanted to take a nap for few minutes. While they were sleeping, the driver and his assistant, told others not to wake them, else they too would be left. And they were left there to to die, in the middle of nowhere. This is a horror story …
ghenet October 2, 2013
Kalighe,
I think we, in the diaspora and in the opposition camp, are to blame for every such deaths in the last few years. We have not focused on bringing about the necessary change. We bicker among ourselves calling each other PFDJ or weyane. The maximum we have done is demonstrate and said ‘enough’ to PFDJ. If you call a thief ‘thief’ he would not mind, would he? Our ‘enough’ should be directed towards the bickering of the opposition! What we should have done is to focus on demonstrations against opposition leaders calling for unity and focus because we have not done anything while our people are dropping like leaves everywhere.
I think it is high time that people like you and me focus on saving our people and call for unity. We should tell them (opposition) that they will be as responsible as PFDJ if they do not act now!
They should march or leave the way to those who can!!! Our struggle cannot be held hostage by burn-out and power greedy arrogant so called politicians.
Kalighe October 2, 2013
Ghenet
I agree. That said, I don’t think it’s easy to bring them together. They are too divided.
If the causes were some sticky issues, it would be relatively easy to get a middle way. But as I see it, it’s mostly about personal rivalry and a bit of a few others, fueled by intolerant culture. It’s not about diversity being a problem, as some of us may think, every camp is divided in one way or the other. There problems that cannot be pinpointed at easily. Is it because of religion, no, followers of the two major religions are divided among themselves politically. Is it about regions, or highland/lowland type, not at all, the same problems are everywhere. So what it’s it ?
Well, I think one major problem is lack of a culture of open and franc debate. We don’t discuss things with open mind. There is always some thing that is not put on the table.
We don’t think compromise is necessary. There are always those who think, they are smarter than others. Then there is an intolerable level of carelessness. Even those of us who know what should be done, leave it to others, assuming that some one will do it.
The worst part is that we wait till it happens to us. Only then we think what others have been complaining from is true. Indifference is very common and very damaging.
In a nutshell, the problem is mainly in the main stream culture.
Wedi memhir October 2, 2013
I like this discussion between Fev and Kalghe, Fev has made some very good points, her observations are a true reflection of many Eritreans. There is not only one answer to our many problems plus many different factors some of which you guys described contribute to where we are today as ‘Eritreans’.
I would also like to add that we trusted these people and we gave them everything, they took everything including our dignity, we have nothing left in us. Members of PFDJ are someone’s brother sister, father, mother or related in one way or another.
In my opinion we need to get back what is personally ours (everyone of us can ask ourselves what has been taken from us then try to get it back).
Best wishes
Fev October 2, 2013
Ghenet,
So you think people in Eritrea would “rise” against pfdj if they mentioned the 13 victimes were Eritreas? Is there another Eritrea that we don’t know where people are brave enough to question the brutal regime and stand up for their rights? Isaias pretty much told the Erittean people he will do exactly what he wants and nothing is gonna change no matter how tough their lives get..Not a Beep from the people who you are expecting to “rise up” because of the death of 13 Eritreans in Italy…we just learned the PFDJ regime executed at least 25 soldiers who participated in last january’s “up rising”, i bet we will never hear a “beep” from anyone in Eritrea let alone an uprisisng, be it their relatives or otherwise..and trust me, everyone in Asmera will know the 25 soldiers were murdered, the 13 Eris Died at sea, but they will carry one with their day to day activities as if mothing happened. RIP to the victimes.
Kalighe October 2, 2013
So Fev, what do you think is the problem ?
why people are not reacting ?
Fev October 2, 2013
Kalighe,
I was in Asmera last summer (July-August), and i was really saddened by the situation there. I came to learn that Isaias has susccesfully crushed the spirit of Eritreans. I have had a chance to speak to quite a few young people, the furthest they come to “Rising-up” against the PFDJ regime is, to leave the country and never to come back. There is no any desire (atleast from the ones i met) to risk anything to change the regime or save Eritrea. The scariest possiblity is, any illiterate colonel could topple Isaias tommorow and hold power unopposed, thus elongating our people’s suffering yet again. Sorry to sound so pessimistic, but this is my true reflections from ehat i have seen there. I don’t have a solution by as a suggestion, the people’s attitude (both inside the country and diaspora) before we change the regime. How its done, i honstly don’t know.
ghenet October 2, 2013
Fev,
It is sad that you have already given up on people in eritrea. First of all no sane person will talk about what they want to do to the GVT as PFDJ always scares them of spies. Secondly are we not talking about our people? Our mums and dads, brothers and sisters? They have no hope because we (the ones who have it and can do something) have denied them and didn’t give them anything to be hopeful of.
It is up to us to sow the seeds of hope in everyone back home. Let us write and rise on unity. Let us be open to anyone who wants to contribute. Let us spend one hour of every day doing that. I know it is difficult to eradicate fear that has systematically been installed for 22 year but I still refuse to give up on my people!
dally October 2, 2013
ohhhhh my god. they told them african migrants, but they know whom they are. they are all eritreans migrated from eritrea due to brutal dictatorial regime.
afro October 2, 2013
God bless their souls!.TV-Eri….african immigrants….what a joke! These hgdefites and papagalo supporters are playing with the eritrean people.we will never forget what is happening to the eritrean youth inside and outside the country.what the hgefites and supporters who always want us to believe is it is america (cia), woyane, jews or some one else which is total fabrication. ENTEZEYTDEF’ANI MEN METS’ DEFENI! THERE WILL BE A PAY BACK TIME FOR HGDEF AND PAPAGALOS!!!!
Mike October 2, 2013
This news from Eri-TV is finally being spoken through Eri-TV….. how amazing…..where was ERi TV when people who met the same fate in Libya, Egypt, and the desert where their body was sold….. a bit late ….. Strangely enough they (Eri-TV) is now saying “African immigrants” – not sure how many of them could be from Eritrea or Ethiopia but this is sickening…. what a government…. how low and how disgusting could Eri. Gov. could get….
Kalighe October 2, 2013
” The scariest possiblity is, any illiterate colonel could topple Isaias tommorow and hold power unopposed, thus elongating our people’s suffering yet again.”
Dear Feven
As long as Iseyas is alive, a stupid colonel cannot mobilize the army without taking permition from his superiors. At all levels of the Army there are members of dift spy networks
Kabbire October 2, 2013
What a shame to the Eritrean regime to call its own dead citizens as just “Africans” and ignore the horrible death of Eritreans in the sea.
If this is how Eritrea treats its citizens in death, then who will be surprised the way Arabs kidnap Eritrean children, enslave and harvest Eritrean organs without qualms in Egypt’s Sinai, Kesela or Libya?